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Are these two cute old gay men worth having as friends or are they just dirty old men?
I'm 43 years old. I know two old charming gay men, one is 81 and the other is 91. (Yes, 91!) Last night after having dinner with them I gave the 91 year old a hug and he pressed his hand in my back in a way that told me he may have been enjoying the physical contact in a way that I'm comfortable thinking about. The next day, the 81 year old said to me "Do you still 'yank your chain' every day?" (Meaning, masturbation). Then he said the 91 year old said he still does (!!) and that he really liked the hug from me the night before. (Meaning he masturbated to some fantasy based on my hugging him.)

Are these guys creepy dirty old men or should I not take what they say (and do) so seriously? Otherwise they seem sweet and charming for the most part, but I don't know if I trust them and that they see me as a sexual object and not a friend.

Moreso, I cherish them as like having the grandpa's I never had and it bothers me that our friendship has been sexualized now and it seems to have lost it's charm.

Last night I felt like I never wanted to interact with them again. Tonight I still feel a little like it but can be persuaded otherwise.

Thanks
I guess you can look at it that you made and old guy happy!
Maybe he needed inspiration, and you gave that to him. He may not be around much longer, they may like the company, and you seem to like them. So take every chance you can get to enjoy their company. If they use you to fantasize then what is the big deal. At least they are not asking you to join! If your bothered by it then tell them you don't want to know about it!

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I am a 23-year-old gay man. Should I contiune my studies in Australia?
I am orignally form Hong Kong. I have been studying accounting in an Australian university for 1.5 years. Recently I took a study break because of my grandpa's death. After I come back to Hong Kong from Australia, my parents ( in HK) ask me daily " We suspect you've turned gay in Australia. Is it really the truth? Everyone in the world is born straight.If you've turned gay, it means you betray heterosexualism. That would be disgusting. Shame on you! You should write us a letter of apology because of your wrong sexuality. I think your IQ is getting low because you are so gay.You are stupid." They continued , "Have you ever think of transferring your course back to Hong Kong? You'll have your credit transfer."
I thought,"I will probably live with my homophobic parents if I study in HK since I don't have my own house here.If I go back to Australia and continue my course,I will keep sharing a house with my gay-friendly housemates."I decide to go back.to Aus Do you mentally support me?
It's best if you continue your studies in Australia. It's horrible to have homophobic parents breathing down your neck... You certainly don't deserve it.

Besides, you're an adult. It's up to you, not your parents, to decide on your lifestyle. You sound like you are happy in Australia with housemates that accept you for who you are. Don't deny yourself happiness just to please your parents. It won't make life any better for you.

And I fully support your decision to go back to Aus. If you ever need somebody to talk with you about it, feel free to email me.

Good luck!
My Grandpa recently came out as gay and my dad and others are devastated. Please help?
My dad and his brothers and sisters are deeply disturbed by the fact that my 70 year old grandpa admitted he was gay. My dad just can't believe the man who helped create him and raise him is gay. My dad's mom died about 30 years ago.

He has been drinking a lot lately, and I suspect my aunts and uncles are doing the same thing. Unfortunately, my dad has connections to Westboro Baptist Church (aka "God hates f--s"). He is ignorant for being so homophobic but please don't berate him. If you got to know him, you'd realize that he his wonderful in a lot of ways. (If only he had this positive attitude about gays and lesbians!)

Me and my sister are afraid of what my dad might do. There is a large collection of guns in our household as my dad is a hunter, and likes to target practice. I'm afraid of my own safety, as well as his safety and other family members. I'm tempted to keep an eye on him and the first illegal thing I witness I should call the police and have him taken to jail just to keep us all safe. I'm not some good little angel when it comes to the law but human life could be on the line here and I wouldn't mind getting the police involved, or some county people for an intervention.
Your grandfather is the same person he has always been. You just know about his secret. If your dad is wacko hide from him. He will eventually get used to the idea that his old dad is a fag
HELP! I feel sorry for all of these older gay guys! What do I do!?
Ok. I posted an ad on craigslist asking where do you find guys who are looking for more than sex. I made it clear that I wasn't looking for a relationship, just someone who can stick around. Like buddies!!

So then not even a minute after I posted the ad WITH MY PIC I got a whole bunch of emails. Like I got like 10 emails in under 1 minute. The thing is they were all old compared to me | 50 +. It's not that I'm discriminating against older men it's just that I just wanna meet people MY AGE. I did get a couple of responses from people around my age. BUT I HAVE A PERSONALITY WHERE I WORRY ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE TOO MUCH!!! They sounded so desperate like PLEASE DON'T IGNORE ME, I WANT A MAN YOUR AGE AND SOME OF THEM POSTED PICS AND THEY LOOKED OLDER THAN MY GRANDPA. I just hate to know that these older men are gay and lonely. =(

They kind of made me feel guilty if I didn't respond back, but I don't wanna lead them on because some of them might take it the wrong way and get all forceful and stuff. WHAT DO I DO?!?!?! IM KINDA SAD.
You don't have to feel bad. They will understand. You don't have to be with someone you don't like just because you feel sorry. Just answer them and tell them respectfully you are looking for people your age, I'm sure they'll understand ;)
How can a feminine gay guy find a date in Seattle?
First, if you're straight I don't want answers from straights. You will never understand gays.

I'm feminine looking where sometimes people wrongly assume I am trans. I'm not wearing any makeup. I just look fem. (Low testosterone I guess).

I know I look good, but most gay men are not attracted to me. They all seem to be going after the bears and jocks. The ones who look like body builders.

The only guys who like me are the very ones I find the most repulsive. Old grandpas with cigarette stained white mustaches, an ugly MARRIED Egyptian guy, and a very ugly Somalian guy who keeps annoying me outside the bars (he can't even pay the cover!).

The weird thing is I get a lot of women after me, but I'm not into them. I even get phone numbers from lipstick LESBIANS!!! Guys tell me I'm good looking but then reject me every time when I say I want to make it go further.

I want a rugged straight acting guy who likes fem guys, but I haven't found anything in 2 years. I don't expect that much. Average look and build would be fine with me.

What the hell am I supposed to do? I don't want to be some body builder to get anyone's attention. I have lily white skin and soft fingers for God's sake. I will not lower myself to going with a grandpa. Sex should never end with me throwing up in a bucket afterward. I'm about to give up completely.

Very lonely.
Join a online gay site & meet someone local. This way you can pick N choose & screen before you meet.

Be safe.
I read recently of an attack on a supposebly gay couple, i need your help...?
in explaining what the legal term is. these two old grandpa's probably over 65 years of age were seen hugging eachother, so this guy sees it and assumes they are gay and beats them with a baseball bat because he thinks it is against god's will for a person to be gay. he believes gay's are the devil so he believed god instructed him to do so as if he is doing god a favor. he beat one of the guys to death and the other one while still being barely alive gets buried alive with the dead man in a coffin deep within the ground. what kind of attack is this? don't say gay attack, i meant what is the legal term for a gay attack? btw it was a real case and do you think it is right what the guy did? and do you think gay's are the devil like the man believed?
It's called a hate crime, numbnut. The guy is obviously a religious crackpot... wait, that's pretty much repetitive. Gay guys rock, damnit!
I am Gay, I am 18 and I like a 13-14 years old boys. Is it wrong? I don't think so!?
Please, I need an answer...There was a lot of couples like that...Ancient Greece, Japan, Europe, Etc... My grandpa was 27 when my grandma was 13...etc.
smh..if it is true love..yes..if its lust..then no..but kind of wierd and pedofileish
Is my grandpa gay?????????
I've never really asked my parents about this and don't plan to. My dad's mom and dad got divorced when my dad was around 8 years old. After that, i have no idea what happened between then and when i was born, besides the fact that my grandma stayed in sacramento and my grandpa moved to san francisco. At some point he moved to napa, where he now lives. He shares the house with a man who is maybe 10 years younger than him, and they share a room and a bed. He is probably 75 years old or so. The house belongs to this man, who inherited it from his parents. I always call this man "Uncle ____" although he is not related to me. Both my grandpa and my "uncle" are very nice, and i love both of them, but i am just wondering if they are gay? I'm lesbian myself, and curious.
THANK YOU!
It's a really good possibility. I would ask him and if you are wrong he'll probably get a laugh out of it when he thinks about it. If you are right you have another lgbt family member to relate too.
How old is Grandpa???
Stay with this -- the answer is at the end. It will blow you away.

One evening a grandson was talking to his grandfather about current events.
The grandson asked his grandfather what he thought about the shootings at
schools, the computer age, and just things in general.

The Grandfather replied, "Well, let me think a minute, I was born before:


' television

' penicillin

' polio shots

' frozen foods

' Xerox

' contact lenses

' Frisbees and

' the pill

There were no:

' credit cards

' laser beams or

' ball-point pens

Man had not invented:

' pantyhose

' air conditioners

' dishwashers

' clothes dryers

' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and

' man hadn't yet walked on the moon









Your Grandmother and I got married first, . . and then lived together.

Every family had a father and a mother.

Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, "Sir".
And after I turned 25, I still called every man older than me, "Sir"
We were before gay-rights, computer- dating, dual careers, daycare centers,
and group therapy.

Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good judgment, and common
sense.

We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong and to stand up
and take responsibility for our actions.

Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a bigger
privilege.

We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.

Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your cousins.

Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when the evening
breeze started.

Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the evenings and
weekends-not purchasing condominiums.

We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric typewriters, yogurt,
or guys wearing earrings.

We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's speeches on our
radios.

And I don't ever remember any guy blowing his brains out listening to Tommy
Dorsey.

If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk.

The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school exam.

Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of.

We had 5&10-cent stores where you could actually buy things for 5 and 10
cents.

Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were all a
nickel.

And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough
stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.

You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . . . but who could afford one?
Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.

In my day:

' "grass" was mowed,

' "coke" was a cold drink,

' "pot" was something your mother cooked in and

' "rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.

' "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,

' "chip" meant a piece of wood,

' "hardware" was found in a hardware store and

' "software" wasn't even a word.

And we were the last generation to actually believe that a lady needed a
husband to have a baby. No wonder people call us "old and confused" and say there
is a generation gap... and how old do you think I am?

I bet you have this old man in mind...you are in for a shock!

Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad at the
same time.

This man would be only 59 years old
WOW, thats preety deep....59 huh.....WOW thats pretty deep
How Old Do You Think Grandpa Is?
How old is Grandpa?

Stay with this -- the answer is at the end. It will blow you away.

One evening a grandson was talking to his grandpa about current events.
The grandson asked his grandpa what he thought about the shootings at schools, the computer age, and just things in general.

The Grandpa replied, 'Well, let me think a minute, I was born before:

' television

' penicillin

' polio shots

' frozen foods

' Xerox

' contact lenses

' Frisbees and

' the pill

There was no:

' radar

' credit cards

' laser beams or

' ball-point pens

Man had not invented:

' pantyhose

' air conditioners

' dishwashers

' clothes dryers

' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and

' man hadn't yet walked on the moon






Your Grandmother and I got married first, . . . and then lived together.

Every family had a father and a mother.

Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, 'Sir'. And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man with a title, 'Sir.'

We were before gay-rights, computer- dating, dual careers, daycare centers, and group therapy.

Our lives were governed by the Ten Com mandments, good judgment, and common sense.

We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions.

Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a bigger privilege.

We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.

Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your cousins.

Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when the evening breeze started.

Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the evenings and weekends-not purchasing condominiums.









We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.

We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's speeches on our radios.

And I don't ever remember any guy blowing his brains out listening to Tommy Dorsey.

If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan ' on it, it was junk.

The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school exam.

Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of.

We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy things for 5 and 10 cents.

Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were all a nickel.

And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.

You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . . . but who could afford one? Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.

In my day:

' 'grass' was mowed,

' 'coke' was a cold drink,

' 'pot' was something your mother cooked in and

' 'rock music' was your grandmother's lullaby.

' 'Aids' were helpers in the Principal's office,

' ' chip' meant a piece of wood,

' 'hardware' was found in a hardware store and

' 'software' wasn't even a word.



And we were the last generation to actually believe that a lady needed a husband to have a baby.. No wonder people call us 'old and confused' and say there is a generation gap... and how old do you think I am?


I bet you have this old man in mind...you are in for a shock!


Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad at the same time.














This man would be only 58 years old!
Good read out, that list, but you may mean 95 and a bit , not 58, right?
or this was around a few years ago.

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